Comments on: There’s Been An Explosion Of Attention On Gary Taubes, ‘Good Calories, Bad Calories’ http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/theres-been-an-explosion-of-attention-on-gary-taubes-good-calories-bad-calories/2084 To educate, encourage, and inspire the world to start low-carb living Thu, 24 May 2012 21:13:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Pot Kettle Blackhttp://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/theres-been-an-explosion-of-attention-on-gary-taubes-good-calories-bad-calories/2084#comment-7211 Pot Kettle Black Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:56:00 +0000 http://livinlavidalowcarb.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/theres-been-an-explosion-of-attention-on-gary-taubes-good-calories-bad-calories/#comment-7211 Hey Jimmy,<br/><br/>Thanks for the Taubes interview links. The LKL appearance was a mess. Oz, Behar and Michaels are big cross talkers. <br/><br/>Kolata had to trash GCBC. She and Jane Brody and the rest of the New York Times health staff were pretty thoroughly trashed in the proceedings and since they've been making public health recommendations rather than doing real journalism for the last 20+ years, it's CYA mode (and cover Jane Brody's rising cholesterol, statin use and generally failing health despite extra efforts towards fat removal, salt control, etc). <br/><br/>There was a great response to Mehmet of Oz (since he's clearly from a fantasy world, and not this one) on YouTube by the FoodDude. Oz-ymandius was taken apart. So, since Ornish makes Oz look very mainstream and Oz makes Ornish look more marginal, does that make Oz a bigger enemy of the LC State.<br/><br/>Last thing: On the Either/Or, the thing is, we aren't even at the Either/Or. We're at the My Way or Your Nuts phase of the diet discourse. But your options for rapprochment, are like this:<br/>1- Low Fat/Low Carb (AKA Kimkins deadly diet)<br/>or<br/>2- Moderation in all things (AKA The Zone, which no one seems able to actually do, probably because of a lack of emphasis on math education in people's youth). <br/><br/>FWIW: we'd probably all be better off it everyone moderated back towards a paleo diet, with cheese and dark chocolate. Hey Jimmy,

Thanks for the Taubes interview links. The LKL appearance was a mess. Oz, Behar and Michaels are big cross talkers.

Kolata had to trash GCBC. She and Jane Brody and the rest of the New York Times health staff were pretty thoroughly trashed in the proceedings and since they’ve been making public health recommendations rather than doing real journalism for the last 20+ years, it’s CYA mode (and cover Jane Brody’s rising cholesterol, statin use and generally failing health despite extra efforts towards fat removal, salt control, etc).

There was a great response to Mehmet of Oz (since he’s clearly from a fantasy world, and not this one) on YouTube by the FoodDude. Oz-ymandius was taken apart. So, since Ornish makes Oz look very mainstream and Oz makes Ornish look more marginal, does that make Oz a bigger enemy of the LC State.

Last thing: On the Either/Or, the thing is, we aren’t even at the Either/Or. We’re at the My Way or Your Nuts phase of the diet discourse. But your options for rapprochment, are like this:
1- Low Fat/Low Carb (AKA Kimkins deadly diet)
or
2- Moderation in all things (AKA The Zone, which no one seems able to actually do, probably because of a lack of emphasis on math education in people’s youth).

FWIW: we’d probably all be better off it everyone moderated back towards a paleo diet, with cheese and dark chocolate.

]]> By: Jimmy Moorehttp://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/theres-been-an-explosion-of-attention-on-gary-taubes-good-calories-bad-calories/2084#comment-7210 Jimmy Moore Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:41:00 +0000 http://livinlavidalowcarb.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/theres-been-an-explosion-of-attention-on-gary-taubes-good-calories-bad-calories/#comment-7210 Here's the transcript, Victoria:<br/><br/>http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0710/19/lkl.01.html<br/><br/>The book is NOT boring, but the science is laid out in very clear language. We'll be doing a chapter-by-chapter look at this book at my <a HREF="http://www.lowcarbdiscussion.com" REL="nofollow">forum</a> starting on October 29th. Here’s the transcript, Victoria:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0710/19/lkl.01.html

The book is NOT boring, but the science is laid out in very clear language. We’ll be doing a chapter-by-chapter look at this book at my forum starting on October 29th.

]]> By: size8jeanshttp://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/theres-been-an-explosion-of-attention-on-gary-taubes-good-calories-bad-calories/2084#comment-7209 size8jeans Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:30:00 +0000 http://livinlavidalowcarb.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/theres-been-an-explosion-of-attention-on-gary-taubes-good-calories-bad-calories/#comment-7209 Too bad I missed that interview. Is there a transcript somewhere?<br/><br/>My friend ordered the book for me from Amazon. Should be here by the end of the week. I hope it's not boring or too scientific. Too bad I missed that interview. Is there a transcript somewhere?

My friend ordered the book for me from Amazon. Should be here by the end of the week. I hope it’s not boring or too scientific.

]]> By: Davehttp://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/theres-been-an-explosion-of-attention-on-gary-taubes-good-calories-bad-calories/2084#comment-7208 Dave Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:55:00 +0000 http://livinlavidalowcarb.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/theres-been-an-explosion-of-attention-on-gary-taubes-good-calories-bad-calories/#comment-7208 The Larry King interview was interesting. Mehmet Oz at least was honest on the point that doctors (including himself) don't really understand the science, though given that, he was certainly eager to push his own viewpoint on what constituted a healthy lifestyle. Jillian from "The Biggest Loser" was quite humorous in her religious fervor for the "exercise more to lose weight" viewpoint. One other point I thought was interesting was when the guests told what they ate during the day. Both Mehmet and Jillian had a lot of supposedly healthy food that was highly processed, whereas if I remember correctly, Gary's was largely whole foods. The Larry King interview was interesting. Mehmet Oz at least was honest on the point that doctors (including himself) don’t really understand the science, though given that, he was certainly eager to push his own viewpoint on what constituted a healthy lifestyle. Jillian from “The Biggest Loser” was quite humorous in her religious fervor for the “exercise more to lose weight” viewpoint. One other point I thought was interesting was when the guests told what they ate during the day. Both Mehmet and Jillian had a lot of supposedly healthy food that was highly processed, whereas if I remember correctly, Gary’s was largely whole foods.

]]> By: The Bunnell Farmhttp://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/theres-been-an-explosion-of-attention-on-gary-taubes-good-calories-bad-calories/2084#comment-7207 The Bunnell Farm Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:33:00 +0000 http://livinlavidalowcarb.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/theres-been-an-explosion-of-attention-on-gary-taubes-good-calories-bad-calories/#comment-7207 Taubes may eventually receive a Nobel Prize for bringing this message forward. Al Gore did it with major global issues. It took awhile. Gore is not exact but he brought his message to hundreds of millions or billions of people and opened dialog and insight and discussion that will eventually lead to a better understanding of our environment as well as ours and our earths overall health. I wish the same for Taubes. Taubes may eventually receive a Nobel Prize for bringing this message forward. Al Gore did it with major global issues. It took awhile. Gore is not exact but he brought his message to hundreds of millions or billions of people and opened dialog and insight and discussion that will eventually lead to a better understanding of our environment as well as ours and our earths overall health. I wish the same for Taubes.

]]> By: Senor Enriquehttp://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/theres-been-an-explosion-of-attention-on-gary-taubes-good-calories-bad-calories/2084#comment-7206 Senor Enrique Sat, 20 Oct 2007 03:04:00 +0000 http://livinlavidalowcarb.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/theres-been-an-explosion-of-attention-on-gary-taubes-good-calories-bad-calories/#comment-7206 It's Saturday afternoon here in Manila and just caught The Larry King Show, guest-hosted by Joy Behar. <br/><br/>Although I read NY Times' "what if it was all a big fat lie?" years ago, I had no idea Gary Taubes would eventually publishe two books hence.<br/><br/>Right after the show, I googled Gary Taubes and your site came up. I have bookmarked it and will be returning to visit often. You see, I have to lose weight and somehow I feel this is the best way to go.<br/><br/>Thanks Jimmy! It’s Saturday afternoon here in Manila and just caught The Larry King Show, guest-hosted by Joy Behar.

Although I read NY Times’ “what if it was all a big fat lie?” years ago, I had no idea Gary Taubes would eventually publishe two books hence.

Right after the show, I googled Gary Taubes and your site came up. I have bookmarked it and will be returning to visit often. You see, I have to lose weight and somehow I feel this is the best way to go.

Thanks Jimmy!

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