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The LLVLC Show (Episode 533): ‘Minding Your Mitochondria’ TEDx Viral YouTube Sensation Dr. Terry Wahls


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Every now and then something happens that helps shake people back into reality regarding nutrition that will have a far-reaching impact on the positive health message we are promoting for many years to come. In November 2011, one such event happened in Iowa City, Iowa that will not soon be forgotten for the power diet can have over seemingly insurmountable diseases. It was during the TEDx Iowa City lecture series that an unassuming medical doctor gave an excellent presentation called “Minding Your Mitochondria” that has quickly become a viral YouTube sensation garnering over a quarter million views in less than two months–and the views just keep adding up as this video has been reposted in the social networking web sites and on health blogs alike! Her name is Dr. Terry Wahls and in 2000 she was diagnosed with progressive multiple sclerosis (MS) that forced her into a wheelchair with no real hope for the future she had dreamed of having with a career in the medical profession. But even as her health was declining, Dr. Wahls poured her energy into researching what she could do to beat her MS. She discovered something truly remarkable about the Paleo diet that led her to begin experiencing some amazingly extraordinary results that no drug or conventional MS therapy was able to deliver.

Watch the infamous YouTube video TEDx Iowa City lecture by Dr. Terry Wahls:


In Episode 533 of “The Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb Show with Jimmy Moore,” we get to hear from this professor of medicine and clinical researcher who survived progressive multiple sclerosis (MS) through therapeutic use of the Paleo diet. Today, while she’s still not 100% better from her debilitating disease, Dr. Wahls engages in regular bicycle rides and leads an active and healthy life. She outlined much of what she has learned about the relationship between the right kind of diet and disease control in her book Minding Your Mitochondria: How I overcame secondary progressive multiple sclerosis (MS) and got out of my wheelchair and she is currently seeking a publisher in 2012 to help spread her message to an even wider audience in her follow-up book tentatively-titled Up From The Chair: Defeating Progressive MS Without Drugs. With everything Dr. Wahls has been able to overcome in her life since that fateful MS diagnosis in 2000 left her seemingly hopeless, it’s unimaginable that anything could stand the way of her achieving whatever it is she desires in her life! This is truly one of the most extraordinary and inspiring stories of health triumph you will ever hear and I am privileged to bring her story to you today.

Listen to Dr. Terry Wahls talk about beating MS with Paleo:

  • Her “foot drop” in 2000 that had her “stumbling”
  • Cleveland Clinic second opinion diagnosis of multiple sclerosis
  • Her immediate implementation of pharmaceutical therapy
  • How she had precursors that were indicative of MS coming
  • In 2003 she began chemotherapy and used a tilt-recline wheelchair
  • The research she did on supplements that improved brain health
  • What “deepened her understanding” of what she needed to do
  • How food contains so many micronutrients we may not know about
  • Her identification of the nutritional content of foods online
  • Why she chose to eat a dairy-free Paleo diet to get nutrients
  • The basics of the foods she recommends for healthy living
  • We have “lost our connection to the food stuffs that sustain”
  • Her modest goal to just walk for a few more months
  • How she did an 18-mile bicycle ride within 9 months of Paleo
  • The clinical trial she is currently conducting on Paleo & MS
  • Why clinical research is “tough” because there has to be profit
  • Canadian-based Direct-MS charity providing “seed money” for study
  • Peer-reviewed comments don’t understand the nutritional component
  • How physicians tend to promote “crappy diets” over science
  • Why medical students need to adopt proper “health behaviors”
  • The example she expects doctors to be for their patients
  • Her penetration into the curriculum in Iowa medical schools
  • Why she is taking her message directly to consumers, too
  • How the Dietary Guidelines are paid for by the food industry
  • The heavy promotion of grain that isn’t based on science
  • How non-government nutrition boards tend to follow science
  • The health improvements that happen for people on a Paleo diet
  • Why gluten-free/dairy-free is first and eventually to Paleo
  • How a “gradual period” of adaptation to Paleo is typical
  • The more severe the health condition, the quicker to implement
  • Her plan for getting people started on the Wahls Protocol
  • The “detox reaction” that you’ll feel at first on Paleo
  • Dr. Wahls’ “Minding Your Mitochondria” TEDx Iowa City lecture
  • Her “surprise” at the attention her lecture has received
  • The desire she has to update her book in 2012
  • How food can be more addictive than nicotine and cocaine
  • The adaptability that people have to feeling poorly
  • Who is doing great work promoting Paleo/proper nutrition
  • The Wahls Foundation work she is doing for research
  • How people can support her work directly with financial funding
  • The “phenomenal impact” of $20,000-50,000 in continuing her study
  • Profits from the sales of her lectures/books fund her research
  • She’s still not quite “normal” yet, but she’s getting there
  • The “quite remarkable” turnaround in her looks since Paleo
  • How she anticipates writing a new book about her life story
  • Her conversations with various publishers to tell her story
  • Why the Paleo diet is about “feeling great right now”
  • How to get the message out to patients who need it the most
  • The “remarkable” power of the Internet in spreading the word
  • Why she decided to “make her research life very difficult”
  • Her willingness to “help millions of people” by going public

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    • Howard

      I have seen Dr. Wahl’s TED talk, and it was quite impressive. I may get a chance to listen to this podcast later today. But meanwhile, I have a question for Dr. Wahl.

      One of the things that I have read is that a subclinical B12 deficiency can have symptoms that closely mimic MS, so closely that it is suspected that some cases of MS are actually a B12 deficiency. The diet she described in the TED talk would be very likely to fix that, and the fact that she changed a bunch of different things all at the same time might completely obscure what the real problem actually was. So, the question is: “Are you 100% sure that your MS was not just a B12 deficiency, and, if so, what makes you sure?”

      One reason for asking is that I know of one person with MS who has followed a low-carb diet (with various teaks) for years, and her MS just keeps getting worse.

    • Awesome interview Jimmy!

      • Anonymous

        She was a fun one, Lisa! Hey, let’s get you on my Low-Carb Conversations podcast. Email me your Skype name. :)