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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Livin&#8217; La Vida Low-Carb Show&#8217; Episode 118: Whatever You Do, Don&#8217;t Call Dean Ornish A Low-Fat Vegetarian</title>
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		<title>By: Ulf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks jimmy!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I guess it all boils down to the fact that our bodies want fats (and proteins of course, but we&#039;re concentrating on fats now) and if we don&#039;t get it from our diets we will manufacture what we can ourselves.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Why else would there be systems in place to produce fats from carbs, or why would breast milk be so fatty?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The more I learn about nutrition, the more convinced I get that natural fats are incredibly important. Good fats provide energy, essential vitamins, are antimicrobial and to top it off, they are delicious!  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks jimmy!</p>
<p>I guess it all boils down to the fact that our bodies want fats (and proteins of course, but we&#8217;re concentrating on fats now) and if we don&#8217;t get it from our diets we will manufacture what we can ourselves.</p>
<p>Why else would there be systems in place to produce fats from carbs, or why would breast milk be so fatty?</p>
<p>The more I learn about nutrition, the more convinced I get that natural fats are incredibly important. Good fats provide energy, essential vitamins, are antimicrobial and to top it off, they are delicious!  <img src='http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THANKS ulf!  Interesting point to ponder...you&#039;re EXACTLY right!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANKS ulf!  Interesting point to ponder&#8230;you&#8217;re EXACTLY right!  <img src='http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ulf</title>
		<link>http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/livin-la-vida-low-carb-show-episode-118-whatever-you-do-dont-call-dean-ornish-a-low-fat-vegetarian/2273#comment-8121</link>
		<dc:creator>Ulf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funniest thing about a low fat, high carb diet is that is in fact a high fat diet if you actually think about it!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The carbs you don&#039;t burn at once will be stored as body fat, so you might as well eat more fats to begin with and skip some carbs. That way, you&#039;ll avoid high blood sugar, insulin rushes and so on.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Fats like butter and cream provide satiety, as well as fat soluble vitamins. Carbs might be transformed into fat by the body chemistry, but since carbs use other metabolic pathways they don&#039;t satisfy like fats. And of course you won&#039;t get important vitamins like A and D. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Eating loads of carbs will only make you store fat, get hungry and cranky... But you know that already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funniest thing about a low fat, high carb diet is that is in fact a high fat diet if you actually think about it!</p>
<p>The carbs you don&#8217;t burn at once will be stored as body fat, so you might as well eat more fats to begin with and skip some carbs. That way, you&#8217;ll avoid high blood sugar, insulin rushes and so on.</p>
<p>Fats like butter and cream provide satiety, as well as fat soluble vitamins. Carbs might be transformed into fat by the body chemistry, but since carbs use other metabolic pathways they don&#8217;t satisfy like fats. And of course you won&#8217;t get important vitamins like A and D. </p>
<p>Eating loads of carbs will only make you store fat, get hungry and cranky&#8230; But you know that already.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Bunnell (TB)--TB</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Bunnell (TB)--TB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carbohydrate addiction seems to get lost in all this. -- That and the carbohydrate addicts pushing &#039;there way&#039; like Dr. Ornish is doing. They will fight to the death for there carbohydrates addictions. That, and with a full contingent of hundreds of millions of other carbohydrate addicts cheering them on. -- We did the same thing when we were carbohydrate addicts and we didn&#039;t know any better so we should be able to see and understand this plainly. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There&#039;s not a lot of choice with carbohydrate addiction. It&#039;s either eat fat and protein with your carbohydrates or just mostly &#039;protein with your carbohydrates&#039; or there&#039;s &#039;just carbohydrates all by themselves like the vegetarians do. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; NOW, choosing the NOT-addicted to carbohydrate approach like we are doing, and you will be forever hungry and suffering if you don&#039;t add plenty of fat to your diet.(But fat is BAD! What to do!) &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; Then there is the actual &#039;ketosis factor&#039; with the &#039;NOT-carbohydrate addicted persons&#039; approach to eating for life, which is what we are doing. --  If we are fat, then keytosis kicks in and removes the fat even though we are eating lots of calories and protein and fat to go with it. Everybody associates &#039;starvation ketosis&#039; with the &#039;we are to fat ketosis&#039; which is entirely different than &#039;fat removing ketosis&#039; but few people know that so they get these all wacky readings thinking about carbs and &#039;starvation ketosis&#039; and then they throw in the HDL and LDL cholesterol factors and triglycerides and blood sugar factors into this hopper, along with the &#039;supposedly&#039; GOOD carbohydrates and of course ketosis which is &#039;bad&#039; &#039;starvation ketosis&#039;, which it isn&#039;t but they don&#039;t know that so they have to throw that out, and everybody ends up thoroughly confused like we are right this moment! &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;No small wonder that Dr. Ornish is so completely dizzied by all this. -- If he could understand &#039;fat burning ketosis&#039; rather than &#039;starvation ketosis&#039; and then if he could understand &#039;actual&#039; GOOD HDL/ LDL cholesterol and &#039;actual&#039; BAD HDL/LDL cholesterol, which is another  thoroughly controversial subject in this age, then he might be able to get a grip on this. -- It stands to reason that if you want to lose weight AND maintain your carbohydrate addiction that you have to cut the fat. -- For we who choose to not be carbohydrate addicted,  understanding the relationship between good fat and good protein and the few good carbohydrates that exist on this earth(rather than &#039;all processed carbohydrates being bad&#039; and &#039;all NOT processed or refined carbohydrates being good&#039;.. -- Not man-bred &#039;sugar factory&#039; carbohydrates but the real, actual, GOOD, natures, carbohydrates,(the ones which there are very few of and the ones that are are so hard to find). Herein lies the key to weight loss as well as health!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carbohydrate addiction seems to get lost in all this. &#8212; That and the carbohydrate addicts pushing &#8216;there way&#8217; like Dr. Ornish is doing. They will fight to the death for there carbohydrates addictions. That, and with a full contingent of hundreds of millions of other carbohydrate addicts cheering them on. &#8212; We did the same thing when we were carbohydrate addicts and we didn&#8217;t know any better so we should be able to see and understand this plainly. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s not a lot of choice with carbohydrate addiction. It&#8217;s either eat fat and protein with your carbohydrates or just mostly &#8216;protein with your carbohydrates&#8217; or there&#8217;s &#8216;just carbohydrates all by themselves like the vegetarians do. </p>
<p> NOW, choosing the NOT-addicted to carbohydrate approach like we are doing, and you will be forever hungry and suffering if you don&#8217;t add plenty of fat to your diet.(But fat is BAD! What to do!) </p>
<p> Then there is the actual &#8216;ketosis factor&#8217; with the &#8216;NOT-carbohydrate addicted persons&#8217; approach to eating for life, which is what we are doing. &#8212;  If we are fat, then keytosis kicks in and removes the fat even though we are eating lots of calories and protein and fat to go with it. Everybody associates &#8216;starvation ketosis&#8217; with the &#8216;we are to fat ketosis&#8217; which is entirely different than &#8216;fat removing ketosis&#8217; but few people know that so they get these all wacky readings thinking about carbs and &#8216;starvation ketosis&#8217; and then they throw in the HDL and LDL cholesterol factors and triglycerides and blood sugar factors into this hopper, along with the &#8216;supposedly&#8217; GOOD carbohydrates and of course ketosis which is &#8216;bad&#8217; &#8216;starvation ketosis&#8217;, which it isn&#8217;t but they don&#8217;t know that so they have to throw that out, and everybody ends up thoroughly confused like we are right this moment! </p>
<p>No small wonder that Dr. Ornish is so completely dizzied by all this. &#8212; If he could understand &#8216;fat burning ketosis&#8217; rather than &#8216;starvation ketosis&#8217; and then if he could understand &#8216;actual&#8217; GOOD HDL/ LDL cholesterol and &#8216;actual&#8217; BAD HDL/LDL cholesterol, which is another  thoroughly controversial subject in this age, then he might be able to get a grip on this. &#8212; It stands to reason that if you want to lose weight AND maintain your carbohydrate addiction that you have to cut the fat. &#8212; For we who choose to not be carbohydrate addicted,  understanding the relationship between good fat and good protein and the few good carbohydrates that exist on this earth(rather than &#8216;all processed carbohydrates being bad&#8217; and &#8216;all NOT processed or refined carbohydrates being good&#8217;.. &#8212; Not man-bred &#8216;sugar factory&#8217; carbohydrates but the real, actual, GOOD, natures, carbohydrates,(the ones which there are very few of and the ones that are are so hard to find). Herein lies the key to weight loss as well as health!</p>
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		<title>By: quotidianlight</title>
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		<dc:creator>quotidianlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried low fat a couple time but couldn&#039;t make it a month! even as a vegetarian I ate a lot of olive oils etc because it made me feel better (kids are so smart if we leave them alone), the minute I &quot;grew up&quot; and learned, &quot;fat was bad&quot; I felt cruddy, got stressed and put on weight for the first time in my life! BTW, I became a veggie because I thought it was healthiest but I feel much better eating meat. If I became a veggie for ethical reasons I think I would have to do a lot of supplementing with various oils to feel as good as I do now. Even some of my food allergies are clearing up though the worst will probably never budge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried low fat a couple time but couldn&#8217;t make it a month! even as a vegetarian I ate a lot of olive oils etc because it made me feel better (kids are so smart if we leave them alone), the minute I &#8220;grew up&#8221; and learned, &#8220;fat was bad&#8221; I felt cruddy, got stressed and put on weight for the first time in my life! BTW, I became a veggie because I thought it was healthiest but I feel much better eating meat. If I became a veggie for ethical reasons I think I would have to do a lot of supplementing with various oils to feel as good as I do now. Even some of my food allergies are clearing up though the worst will probably never budge.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lost 170 pounds on a low-fat diet in 1999, but gained it all back within four months because I was sick of how it made me feel (especially the hunger!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lost 170 pounds on a low-fat diet in 1999, but gained it all back within four months because I was sick of how it made me feel (especially the hunger!).</p>
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