“The zero carb diet has not been proven safe for babies, therefore we cannot and will not endorse it for expectant or nursing Moms. Please consult a licensed medical professional for all questions regarding prenatal and neonatal nutrition.”

I’ve read the zero carb linked topic from the forum up to OCt 2 and thern all of this comment section and have never seen any where Charles actually posts a sample zero carb menu of just grocery store beef and water which he has stated in his reply to Jimmy and again in his commnets here provide the nutriants a pregnat woman and developing baby need to make eating zero carb safe.

I can agree with him zero carb store bought beef beef fat and water willl provide all the fat, protein, and energy needed but not the vits and minerals.

Those additional vits and minerals needed for the developing baby are not going to already be present in the female and “saved” because there is a lack of carbs. They must come from the food she eats and I’m at a loss to discover any grocery store beef cut that will come close to supplying the folate needed to avoid neural tube defects, the magnesium, copper, manganes, sodium, vitamin A ,and a few other vits should organ meat be disallowed as Charles has said it wasn’t part of the inuits zero carb diet.

We know the Maassai drink the milk and blood of the cattle something zero carbers don’t and supplement the diet of pregnant females which leads one to believe that zero carb culture knows zero carbs and pregnancy don’t mix well for survival of the child and mother.

So Charles would you please provide a sample zero carb grocery store beef and water menu that meets the new vitamin and mineral needs of the pregnant female?

Not that that has any bearing whatsoever in the matter of Charles being allowed to dispense medical advice to expectant Moms.

And I’m not really sure what to do in this situation. Obviously my lame attempt at parody didn’t work. And just as obviously, my equally lame attempt at seriousness isn’t working.

But I have tried, and I need to make peace with the fact that that’s all I can do.

If you were concerned about a situation, and just sat silently by without even trying to help, would that be a wise or sane option for you?

Probably not, but then again, we all have our own ways of dealing with what we feel are problems.

My apologies to those of you who feel I’ve been repetitious and am overstating the case.

And to JD, I’m sorry that you feel that it’s “drivel” to try and make the case for considering respected sources of prenatal nutrition information such as Ms. Fallon rather than relying on Charles and his Captain Barbell books.

Though I am foolish indeed, my conscience in clear in this matter, and I hereby will refrain from further ranting.

One must assume they’ve got all the financial details sorted out with their respective legal counsels and are eagerly looking forward to making money regardless of the possible risks to their victims — and their victims’ babies.

In one of Charles’s posts at Jimmy’s forums (which, by the way, are already being scrubbed, thereby destroying evidence) Charles made the following statement:

“Ol’ Weston A. Price group gets all fired up about soy. I just avoid it in case they’re right.”

Please read that again — Charles avoids soy “just in case” the Weston A. Price group “might” be right.

Well what if the Weston A. Price group might be right about the guidelines for a healthy diet for expectant Moms?

Remember Sally Fallon’s reply to my email, which I quoted in a comment below, along with a copy of her recommended dietary guidelines for expectant Mom’s?

Sally Fallon — one of the leaders of the Weston A. Price group.

Charles abides by the Weston A. Price warnings about soy “just in case they “might” be right.

He’s not willing to take a chance with HIS health.

But he IS willing to take a chance with the health of expectant Moms and unborn babies.

He doesn’t tell them to abide by the Weston A. Price warnings about a healthy prenatal diet “just in case” they “might” be right.

Why?

I want to know, why is Charles willing to risk the health and possibly even the lives of unborn babies and their Moms — when he’s NOT willing to risk his OWN health?

This goes to the heart of what I said earlier about Jimmy and Charles — they have no respect for women or babies.

Look at this other post, written by Charles himself, just yesterday:

“I just need one of you ladies to look great enough so that your husbands will impregnate you and I can end this zero-carb and pregnancy nonsense. In fact, I wish I were a woman and I could just take one for the team…. sigh”

Okay so #1. these ladies don’t already look great enough for their own husbands to desire them?

Way to go acknowledging the innate natural beauty of all people regardless of their weight.

Way to bolster the self esteem of women whose self-esteem has already taken a beating due to their struggles with weight in a society which constantly bombards them with the message that they aren’t desirable enough.

Read Charles’s own words again. It’s obvious that he views these women as test subjects and wants them to conduct his experiment to test his ridiculous theory.

Talk about objectifying women.

Talk about callous disregard for the fact that these are real people, with real feelings.

Callous disregard for the fact that there are REAL BABIES who might just possibly suffer real harm or even real death if Charles’s test subjects will only follow his instructions so they can qualify for his experiment.

What a cold hearted, egotistical little freak.

Excuse me — what a COUPLE of cold hearted egotistical little freaks, plural. Jimmy has been working his fingers off for months now, promoting this man, spreading his crap all over the internet, laying the foundation for their new business venture.

THAT is what this discussion is about. NOT low carb. We are not talking about low carb. We are talking about Charles’s version of a “beef, beef fat, and water” diet “for any nursing or expectant woman.”

And in reply to Katy — read for yourself what I posted — prenatal nutritional advice from respected sources specifically regarding — surprise — prenatal nutrition. You seem to have the same attitude here that Jimmy, Charles, BlackPhase have — that this is all just a game of words.

In his own posts, Charles has told nursing and expectant women it’s safe to eat nothing but supermarket beef (specifically, hamburger meat and steak), beef fat, and water — and nothing else — for the duration of the pregnancy.

Those are his own words. He’s not talking about low carb. So please shall we discontinue the comments and personal accounts, interesting thought they may be, regarding low carb, because we are not talking about low carb. Ok? Let me repeat — we are not talking about low carb.

Now, back to the central core of this situation — the babies. The little ones, who have no power, whose Moms are being (insert whatever word you wish to play with here, as this seems to be some sort of game to you) whose Moms are being advised, told, counseled, recommended, assured, etc., by a person who is in Jimmy’s own words “regurgitating” the stuff he has read in some popular diet books.

Let’s talk about those babies, whose health and possibly even whose lives might be affected by Charles’s regurgitations.

I have asked repeatedly, why take that risk? What could possibly be worth taking that risk?

Would it be possible to get an answer to that question?

Tell us, Jimmy, Charles, BlackPhase, Katy, what could possibly be worth risking the health and possibly even the life, of a baby?