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Gary Taubes On The Dr. Oz Show: National Exposure For ‘Why We Get Fat’ And Low-Carb Living

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyh6TrHMaeE
(this video will likely be pulled soon…The Dr. Oz Show producers have claimed a copyright violation even though I gave them credit in the notes at YouTube)

Gary Taubes received his biggest national television exposure to date by appearing on The Dr. Oz Show today to discuss the concepts he shares about in his latest book Why We Get Fat And What To Do About It. The comments from the blogosphere have been varied with some people really mad at Dr. Oz for refusing to let Gary get into more detail about why he concludes what he does about carbohydrates being fattening and saturated fat being healthy (I really wished Gary had asked Oz about his newfound support of coconut oil in light of his statement in this segment that saturated fats are “dangerous”). Still others were disappointed at Taubes for refusing to take a cholesterol test (which was nothing more than a set-up that Gary was not about to walk himself into without having an opportunity to explain about LDL particle size).

All in all, it was fabulous national television coverage for low-carb living and we should all be very proud of the way Gary Taubes conducted himself in a somewhat hostile environment. It certainly hasn’t hurt his book sales which have been soaring on Amazon.com all day as have sales of his first book on diet and health Good Calories Bad Calories. While it may not have been the perfect coverage, I think the exposure has already begun a ripple effect in piquing the curiosity of those who watched today. How do I know? Well, looking at the number of people who have found my blog today typing in “That Gary guy on Dr. Oz” or “What does Gary Taubes eat” doing a Google search. I’d say over half of keyword searches where someone landed at the “Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb” blog today were some variation of people looking for more information about Gary’s March 7, 2011 appearance on Dr. Oz. WAY COOL!

In case you missed Gary Taubes’ take on his wacky appearance on The Dr. Oz Show today, he’s written a brand new blog post about it entitled “The Dose of Intervention and the Land of Dr. Oz.” ENJOY! And if something about this fired you up to the point that you’re ready to give Dr. Oz a piece of your mind, then I HIGHLY encourage you to contact his show and express yourself. If enough people who support the idea of a high-fat, moderate protein, low-carb lifestyle change (and yes, we CAN live this way for the rest of our lives, Dr. Oz!) would simply share their thoughts about this amazing way of eating, it may open his eyes to the fact that livin’ la vida low-carb is a lot more mainstream than he realizes. Now, go tell ‘em!

  • Cathy Bock

    It was a hostile environment but Gary Taubes did an amazing representation despite the obvious setups through out.

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com Jimmy Moore

      That cholesterol test thing was the BIGGEST setup in the world…good for Gary having the guts to decline.

  • Michelle from Durham

    Hey Jimmy, I watched the Dr. Oz show today and think GT did a pretty decent job, considering that Dr. Oz tried to railroad him. But it is tv, what can you expect? There has to be some “dramatic effect” for the ratings you know.

    I am glad GT did not take the cholesterol test. That was a huge set up. The only thing that I did not like was what Dr. Oz was eating the low carb way, trying to prove a point that that kind of diet makes you feel lousy. It was such a set up for TV! Not everybody who eats low carb eats pork rinds. I can’t stand pork rinds! What about almonds Dr. Oz?

    Dr.Oz has to keep up his schtick, so of course he is not going to come out and say he was wrong. But you know what, I am sticking to GT. GT changed my life with Good Calories, Bad Calories. I have kept my weight off now for 4 years eating low carb. Dr. Oz can keep his granola and blueberries.

    I hope GT sells lots of books after this so he can send his kids to a great college!

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com Jimmy Moore

      I agree, Michelle! They wanted entertainment and that’s what they got. Too bad an innocent man with a fabulous set of books that could help save the health of the millions watching was kinda stuck in the middle of this morass. I don’t eat pork rinds either…too hard on my teeth and gums. I know, where were the nuts, grass-fed beef, pastured eggs, and coconut oil? Gary deserves to be lauded for raising the bar of nutritional thinking in America.

  • Sonya

    Gary did a great job in the face of obstinate obnoxiousness! I have to wonder, though, if Oz DOES really subscribe to Gary’s science and that’s why he really brought him on but due to having to keep those who pay the bill$ happy was obligated to argue with Gary. I can dream, can’t I? I see Oz finding some way to save face while coming around to tauting the true science Gary promotes.

    OF COURSE he felt like crap after one day of eating low carb. He eats so many carbs that only one day is going to cause his body to go into shock and feel like crap. LIke Gary said, good tv but not good science.

    I hope there were sparks in the thoughts of the many of his viewers who need help enough for them to pick up Gary’s book and perform their own N=1 experiment. I just wish they knew about the flu-like symptoms they may experience due to drastic changes from crappy diets to what their bodies really need.

    Thanks, Jimmy!

  • http://www.holdthetoast.com Dana Carpender

    I have to point out, though, that pork rinds are about the healthiest thing in the snack aisle. They have no more fat than chips, and they have twice as much protein as fat, not that I object to fat — just pointing out that they’re hardly freakishly fatty. They’re a great source of gelatin, which is good for joints, bones, the digestive tract — just about everything. Pork rinds are actually good for you. No reason to eat them if you don’t care to, but they’ve gotten a bad rap they don’t deserve.

  • Stephanie O.

    I couldn’t believe the antics of Dr. Oz on his 24 hour diet. That was as phony as Morgan Spurlock. And he has to know that his headache would have gone away, it is probably a sign that he eats too many carbs on a normal day if he had carb withdrawal.

    I am not even convinced that Oz read the book, I found the chapter about the significance of 20 calories more interesting than some of the things they covered, then at the end of the segment Oz is telling people to cut 100 calories a day, as if that will make the difference in a weight loss plan.

  • http://www.freeformfitness.ca/blog Jean-Luc

    I actually was getting upset looking at OZ set up Gary like that. Cheap shots.
    And I hate how he always partially agrees with him.
    I hope people are smart enough to see through that.

    Then I think, even though Dr OZ made him look bad (to his fans).
    The fact still remains that Gary just reached a huge audience and is doing an
    amazing job at building awareness of low carb.

    His book is required reading for all my personal trainers.

    Trying to figure out Dr OZ’s motive I don’t get it.

    There’s definitely a problem of range.

    A focused expertise could be dangerous. A heart surgeon see’s the cholesterol in the artery and assumes that it’s from the cholesterol we consume not the insulin. He then (With all his credibility)tells everyone to avoid cholesterol. Saying he has his arms buried in a chest every day looking at plaque in the arteries paints an influential picture.

    Anyways, thanks again and again Jimmy.

  • http://www.freeformfitness.ca/blog Jean-Luc

    Oh and that video where he ate the low carb diet for a day and magically got all the symptoms.

    Loser!

  • Patricia

    I also watched Gary Taubes on Dr. Oz. The best part was Gary pointing out that Oz himself had no idea what it is like living with metabolic syndrome or insulin resistance. Yes, it was a little disappointing to hear GT turn down a chance for a cholesterol test, until you heard his very cogent reasons (being on the road, living a busy life that is affecting sleep time).

    I am much more disappointed with Dr. Oz. I truly question whether he read the book, or just notes an aide took. Dr. Oz chose the greasiest sausages for breakfast, and WHY did he think that, with the exception of the grain, he couldn’t have his normal dinner of salmon (a pretty high protein/fat choice) and still follow a low carb way of eating? Just seeing what Oz chose for his 1 day trial I could see he picked the foods he was most likely to dislike. And in all fairness, a 1 day trial is not long enough to see/feel any changes. Unfortunately for Oz, stale breath does NOT automatically equate to your body switching to burning fat instead of sugar.

    The only thing I wish GT could have gotten in would have been to ask Dr. Oz WHY after all these years of diet sodas, emphasis on cereals as breakfast foods & lean meats has there been an increase in cardiac problems and obesity. Who knows, maybe he did and it was cut. But I doubt Oz could have come up with an answer that did not fall back on the “super sizing” excuse.

  • chuckpen

    I am sure there was a lot of good discussion that was cut from the air. This may have been good for Taubes to sell some books but personally I do not think it was good for the low carb movement. Dr. Oz did not give Gary the time to properly discuss the merits of a low carb diet. I guess I was unrealistic but I expected more time to be dedicated to such a complicated topic and one that is so controversial. Will Taubes’ Oz show appearance have an impact? Maybe a little. A significant impact? No.

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com Jimmy Moore

      I still disagree. If low-carb wasn’t on someone’s radar screen before, then it perhaps will be now. Why has this man Gary Taubes sold so many books? Why has he been invited to speak to medical schools and conferences? What is it in the scientific data that leads him to believe carbs are the culprit and not fat. Sure, the lazy people will just buy into all that Oz says, but the curiosity factor will drive others to seek out more info on this Taubes fella. And that will lead them to blogs like mine where they will get a more in-depth look at what healthy low-carb living is all about. I’d love for people to get it all in one swell foop too, but incremental enlightenment is how it usually happens.

  • Clark

    I think Gary defended himself well given the lies that Dr. Oz spewed. I believe Gary is a man of good ethics. I hope this brings Gary that much more credibility as well as popularity. Otherwise, it’s a waste of time arguing with such idiots.

  • Mary

    After watching it a second time, I think Gary did a great job given the gimmicks he had to work around. It still irks me that they couldn’t of just had a sit down conversation similar to the radio show. Also, I found the sleazy “24 hour experiment” to be ironic. The diet Dr. Oz normally follows (as shown on the show) is pretty healthy/lowcarb for a lean man like himself. So, the pork rinds etc., were a joke!

  • Lawrence Louis

    First, I want to express my appreciation to Jimmy for posting this interview of Gary Taubes on his YouTube channel. Jimmy’s efforts to keep the low carb community abreast of the latest news concerning health and nutrition is invaluable to those of us who live the low carb lifestyle. What follows is an expanded version of the comments, that I posted under a pseudonym, on Jimmy’s YouTube video post of the interview.

    Dr. Oz’s interview is replete with so many problems that I could fill pages underscoring all the fallacious logic that he employed to mischaracterize Gary’s thesis, and how much of his own perspective on diet is flawed. But I will be mercifully terse. Despite how much Dr. Oz tried to make Taubes look like some radical who was out of touch with reality, Mr. Taubes’ message now has more exposure than ever before. As the old saying goes : “There is no such thing as bad publicity”. Most non-fiction books, however well researched, seldom get read that widely without first being talked about on network television. So next to going on Oprah, Dr. Oz’s show, despite being adversarial towards Gary, was high exposure advertisement. If even a fraction of Oz’s massive audience is adventurous and independent enough to read either of Gary’s books, it could have long term repercussions on the dietary community.

    What I find particularly odd about Dr. Oz is that when he interviewed Gary on his radio show, a few weeks before the TV interview, he was surprisingly open to Gary’s perspective on carbohydrates and the innocuous role of saturated fat in our diet. Though it would be a distortion to say that Oz was in complete agreement with Gary on the radio interview, he didn’t seem to show the level of skepticism that he did in his TV interview with him, nor did he seem as hell bent on trying to trip Gary up. I can only attribute this difference in behavior to the fact that many food corporations, which make a lot of money selling high carbohydrate foods and processed foods, would be hurt by Taubes’ anti-carb message, and since many food corporations advertise on Oz’s time slot, Oz had to do the bidding of his task masters. I don’t know how else to account for Dr. Oz’s duplicitous behavior.

    You could tell there were going to be problems with the interview from the get go, when a preview of the interview had Dr. Oz ask Gary the question (paraphrase):”Why should we believe you? You are not a doctor.” Anyone having taken an entry level philosophy or logic class knows that this is a logical fallacy of arguing from authority. A man of Dr. Oz’s erudition and education should know better than to resort to this. An argument must be judged on its own merits, based on the evidence and reasons given to support it, and not on the credentials of the person giving the testimony.

    Secondly, just because Dr. Oz has a “Dr.” in front of his name does not qualify him to talk about nutrition anymore than Mr. Taubes. In fact Taubes (having studied engineering, physics and journalism at Harvard, Stanford, and Columbia) is probably more qualified because he has spent most of his career investigating what constitutes good science and what are the indicators of bad science, while Dr. Oz merely parrots the research of other people, without having the time or expertise to determine whether such research was conducted using appropriate methodology. One, after all, can be well versed in something completely false, and still sound to the layperson like you know what you are talking about – especially in a 20 minute segment where issues are only covered superficially and with sound bites. Also Gary didn’t make up his thesis out of whole cloth. His thesis is based on researching the work of highly credentialed men and women who rival Dr. Oz in education, if not exceed his level of education, especially with respect to nutritional research.

    So if you still place a lot of stock in the credentials of an individual, it should also be noted that there are many medical doctors and PhD level researchers that agree with Taubes, either entirely or for the most part, and more and more of them are coming over to Taubes’ side as more research accumulates. These include people like Dr. Stephen Phinney, Dr. Eric Westman, Dr. Loren Cordain, Dr. Matt Lalonde, Dr. Jeff S. Volek, Dr. Jonny Bowden, Dr. Rob Thompson, Dr. Robert Lustig, Dr. Uffe Ravnskov, Drs. Mary and Michael Eades, Dr. Kurt Harris, Dr. Richard Bernstein, Dr. Ann Childers, Dr Malcolm Kendrick, and the list can go on and on.

    If committing a logical fallacy of arguing from authority weren’t bad enough, Dr. Oz actually showed how he tried the low carbohydrate lifestyle for a WHOPPING DAY, and he had the audacity to call it an “experiment” and he complained about how bad he felt, and how he was constipated. Anyone who has passed middle school should be able to tell this is not an experiment in any scientific sense. What Dr. Oz did was actually anecdotal nonsense at its worst. Anyone who has transitioned to any diet, away from their previous eating habits, can tell you that they feel weird to downright bad the first few days because it takes time for a person’s body to adjust as well as for the mind to adapt to new habits. This will occur whether you changing to a restricted low calorie/low fat diet that the medical establishment and Dr. Oz advocates, or whether you are changing to low carbohydrate/moderate protein/high fat diet. I can just as easily do a one day experiment with Dr. Oz’s mostly carbohydrate rich, low calorie diet and feel bad for that one day. In fact I have done it before for much longer and I felt constantly hungry and lethargic. Would my one day of feeling bad be sufficient evidence for Dr. Oz that his dietary advice is bad? If the answer is no, then he is being intellectually dishonest for applying this same standard to Taubes’ concept of diet.

    I hope Dr. Oz’s audience is astute enough to see that what he was doing with his little experiment, was not scientifically rigorous at all, and that even as comedy it did a poor job. Such condescending caricaturing of Taubes’ very well researched thesis is not something you would expect from one of America’s most respected and high profile doctors, but this is what happens when a man tries to cater to the commercialism that catapulted him to fame in the first place. Dr. Oz, please leave the comedy to the sitcoms.

    Now since we are basically dealing with a puppet for conventional medicine, it is no wonder that Dr. Oz would eventually bring up the connection between saturated fat, cholesterol and heart disease. Of course, anyone who has read Taubes’ book, as well as the research and books of the illustrious figures that I mentioned earlier, could tell you that the work to show a connection between saturated fat, cholesterol and heart disease is dubious and no clear causal link can be drawn from the evidence we have. Unfortunately a paltry 20 minutes doesn’t allow a man like Taubes to show the mountains of evidence demonstrating that no causal link exists between fat, cholesterol and heart disease. After all, even the most adept orator couldn’t take Taubes’ meticulously researched book, “Good Calories, Bad Calories”, which is over 500 pages long, and condense it down into a sound bite effective enough to dispel this myth in the 5 minutes Oz allotted to this subject.

    It should be noted that there are plenty of people on a low fat diet who have high cholesterol. And there plenty of people on a low fat diet who have low cholesterol. The same holds true for people on low carbohydrate diets. The country of India has one of the largest populations of vegetarians in the world, and they also have high rates of heart disease and diabetes. Conversely the French intake high volumes of fat (yes even saturated fat), and the Inuit of Arctic regions and the Massai of Africa get most of their caloric intake from animal protein and fat, and yet they all have low rates of heart disease and diabetes. How would Dr. Oz explain that? He doesn’t. He just ignores contrary evidence. Granted I am no doctor, but that doesn’t sound very scientific.

    And all of this doesn’t even begin to take into account a big confounding variable which really throws in a wrench in the endeavor of drawing connections between dietary fat, cholesterol and heart disease. What is this big variable? It is genetics. Genes determine how your body interacts with food, and that is why certain people can eat certain foods without deleterious side effects, and others can eat the same food and get catastrophic results.

    And finally, with respect to cholesterol, the overall number for cholesterol is absolutely meaningless, as Gary pointed out, when it comes to predicting heart disease. That is why you have people who suffer cardiac events who run the gamut from having low cholesterol to high cholesterol, and why you have many who don’t suffer cardiac events that equally run the gamut from low to high. My father had low cholesterol and suffered blockages, but my mother, who has high cholesterol has no heart disease.

    So given all of this, why did Dr. Oz insist on asking Gary to have his cholesterol measured for the show? Because he knew that it would make look Gary look evasive when Gary pointed out the truth about the triviality of cholesterol and how LDL doesn’t tell the entire picture. Dr. Oz knew that his audience was already predisposed to associating an overall high level of cholesterol as a bad thing, and that they wouldn’t know that LDL measurements must take into account particle size to be at all informative concerning heart disease risk. So even supposing Gary’s overall cholesterol was high and his overall LDL was high, what does that tell us about low carbohydrate diets? NOTHING! After all, Gary’s numbers could have been high before he started low carb, because of genetic factors. No real connection could be drawn. It would be the equivalent of me associating Dr. Oz’s recent scare with a precancerous growth, inside his intestine (which was big news in September of 2010) with his whole grain/high carbohydrate/low fat diet. Using Dr. Oz’s specious logic of saying, because Gary Taubes has high cholesterol because he eats high fat, can’t I make the equally fallacious correlation between Dr. Oz semi-vegan lifestyle and his cancer. After all, if he is going to use disingenuous tactics to discredit the opposition, he cannot preclude the opposition from doing the same.

    All in all, the interview Dr. Oz did on his television program was appalling, and I think it affirms what Upton Sinclair said that ” It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!” In any case, despite Oz’s effort to discredit Taubes, the exposure Taubes received will reach curious viewers and in essence Dr. Oz’s stunt will backfire on Oz and on the medical establishment he represents.

    Jimmy, I implored you on your YouTube video upload, and I implore you again here to respond to Dr. Oz on your podcast. You are one of the most high profile voices in the low carb community, especially among laypeople, and Dr. Oz’s shenanigans deserves a response. Thank you.

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com Jimmy Moore

      Already thinking about how to respond and will work on it soon. Busy podcast recording week for me. Thanks Lawrence!

  • http://simplicityexperiment.blogspot.com/ Carol Tiffin James

    Thanks for posting this video, as I missed the show due to work. I agree with all the responses. I wish Dr. Oz, had chosen my daily low-carb diet (like chef salads with full-fat olive oil and vinegar dressing, peanut butter, almonds, eggs, cauliflower/broccoli and other low-carb veggies, dark chocolate, etc.) instead of an extreme diet just to prove his point. As one poster said, coming off a high-carb diet is like withdrawal. Would Dr. Oz interview an alcoholic going through detox after one day and say, “Oh, you feel and look miserable – detox is a bad choice!”? There are indeed folks who can eat a lot of carbs and it doesn’t affect them – my son-in-law is one – but from experience, I know low-carb is what my body needs and where it functions best. I hope the publicity helped GT. He did a great job – I think he was more patient than I would have been.

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com Jimmy Moore

      It’s a shame Taubes was the only person in touch with reality on that stage.

  • Peter Silverman

    It surprises me that Taubes never suggests that people test their own blood sugar after meals to see which foods jerk their blood sugar around and which one’s don’t. Testing your own diet yourself is much more convincing than research, or the contradictory advice of experts.

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com Jimmy Moore

      While I agree that’s very important, Peter, in a TV show like this he didn’t have a chance to explain why that was so important. Oz wanted to talk carbs and fat and nothing else.

  • Kevin

    I happened to listen to the February 24, 2011 Dr. Oz radio show featuring Gary Taubes. It was amazing how respectful he was of Gary on the radio show, but on the television show it was a different story. Gary Taubes mentioned during the radio show something like “remember when I came to speak to your Cardio Thoracic group a couple of years ago”… well if Dr. Oz wasn’t impressed with Gary Taubes in 2007 when filming the Lary King show, or his presentation to his fellow cardio thoracic surgeons in 2009, then he sure wouldn’t have invited him on to his radio and television shows. The fact I believe Dr. Oz may have treated Gary differently on television is due to his high carb sponsors (Post Cereals of the world etc..). Just saying.. :)

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com Jimmy Moore

      No doubt Kevin.

  • http://carbwars.blogspot.com Judy Barnes Baker

    I wish Gary had mentioned that Dr. Oz was recently diagnosed with early stage colon cancer, especially since it was Oz who brought it up as a risk of eating red meat. He certainly hasn’t been eating red meat, so it seems all his “healthy,” anti-oxidant-rich whole grains, tofu, wheat gluten, and fruits are not protecting his own health.

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com Jimmy Moore

      Gary wouldn’t do something like that because he’s a gentlemanly debater, Judy. But I would have certainly brought up coconut oil which Oz praised in a show recently being made up of 90% saturated fat which he said in his chat with Gary is a “dangerous” fat to consume. The thing at work here is ignorance about nutrition from the Oz audience. They don’t realize there’s about half the saturated fat in red meat as there is in coconut oil.

  • http://lowcarbdaily.com Frank Hagan

    Oz obviously had the home court advantage, and if you watched the promos running before the show, you realize it could have been much worse. I thought it would be a wipe out, but I thought Taubes did well.

    Ten years ago, Dr. Oz would not have been nodding in agreement when Taubes said total cholesterol didn’t matter; at that time, Dr. Oz was probably pointing to that number and admonishing his patients that the total was far too high. Ten years from now, Dr. Oz will be confidently advising his patients to avoid most carbs.

    One thing I noticed was that the plate of colorful fruit included at least two things that are allowed in most low carb diets: blueberries and strawberries. The one missed opportunity Gary had was when Dr. Oz placed a single strawberry on the eggs and said that the diet was broken. Gary could have grabbed half a cup of strawberries, and a half cup of blueberries, and pulled them over to the “protein plate” and said “Even in the most strict low carb diet, these things are allowed.”

    Even though Dr. Oz owes his TV success to the despicable Oprah, I thought he was far more even handed than the failed low-fat dieter Queen of Hearts. Having known people sand-bagged by Oprah, and then pilloried on national TV, I feared the worst for Taubes. But, Dr. Oz at least has some class, and I think a lot of Gary’s message got through.

    I tried the watch the rest of Dr. Oz’s show, but my Lord, what a bunch of simplistic tripe.

  • Rick Blaine

    That was stomach-churning. I think I’m very much not alone when I say that I have washed my hands of the multitude of sheeple. If an overweight person watched that nonsense today, and went out & ate whole grains & fruit, and eschewed saturated fats, I have no absolutely sympathy whatsoever for him or her. Dr. Oz is a hack, preying on the intellectually weak so that he has a steady supply of patients to get his “bandsaw” out & cut on–and the intellectually weak have 834,377 sources of the paleo/primal/low carb message. If they refuse to think for themselves, Gary Taubes, Jimmy, Dr. Harris, Mark Sissons, Robb Wolf, Dr. DeVany, Dr. Cordain, Dr. Mc. Guff, Matt Lelonde, & the rest of the primal warriors can’t be expected to convince them.

  • http://naturallyengineered.com/blog/welcome David Csonka

    Jimmy, you will find that many anti-fat folks will still praise coconut oil (at least recently) because the saturated fat in coconut is predominantly medium-chain triglyceride, and is metabolized differently from other long-chain trigs like palmitic acid.

    • http://naturallyengineered.com/blog/welcome David Csonka

      Oops I meant fatty acids, not triglycerides.

  • Vicki

    Gary had control of what seemed like an uncontrollable situation. He handled himself well. I loved his comment, after Oz’s clip showing what he ate one day, in which Gary said it was good entertainment but asked where was the science.

  • http://paleoandoverload.blogspot.com Carla

    Dr Oz was so bad in this faux interview. Using his ” I am a cardiologist” card as if that made him an expert on nutrition. Dont even get me started on his so-called low carb diet test. 24 hours really? and those food choices?

    Jimmy please there needs to be a response to this.

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com Jimmy Moore

      I will be doing a response video to it soon. Taubes will also be blogging more about the cholesterol test thing especially real soon.

  • http://www.healthhabits.ca Doug

    Jimmy,

    On my blog today, I suggested that:

    Gary asks Dr. Oz for a follow-up show

    2 months prior to the show, they both take a complete set of (agreed upon) diagnostic tests

    After completing the blood tests, Dr. Oz goes on a 4 week low-carb diet designed by Taubes, while
    Taubes goes on a 4 week low-fat diet designed by Dr. Oz

    They run the tests again

    They go back to their own diets for another 4 weeks, and

    Repeat the tests a third time

    Present the results live on Dr. Oz’s show.

    Of course, we know that the tests won’t work out in favor of Dr. Oz, so it is going to take some social pressure to get him to agree to a test like this.

    I posted my suggestion on Dr. Oz’s FB page. Perhaps if you and Gary were to unleash to low-carb army on this, Dr. Oz could be convinced to do this follow up show

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com Jimmy Moore

      I’ll run this by Gary…although I doubt Oz will have him back on AGAIN. Never hurts to try though.

  • Arlo

    I’ve seen my share of gross and disturbing videos on the internet, but after looking how ABC Nightline treated the paleo community with such disrespect, I’m having trouble working up the nerve to watch such a well-versed guy as Taubes go up against a media spectacle like Doc Oz. Especially because the people who parrot the “meat and fat is bad” message to me at work get most of their health information from him. I’ll probably get around to it, but I just don’t feel like getting fired up today!

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com Jimmy Moore

      Compared with the Nightline coverage of Paleo last week, this interview with Gary Taubes on Oz was a bloodbath. At least Nightline gave Robb Wolf and Art De Vany a chance to speak and communicate what they are all about…Gary was not afforded this as well. Watch it–someday.

  • Ginger

    Just watched the video today and the first thing that jumped out at me was Oz saying that GT was challenging some very fundamental ASSUMPTIONS…not even saying that it’s science (which it isn’t) or trying to legitimize it. It baffles me that educated people like physicians still doubt the science but at the same time, it’s like the adage of “you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink”…you can’t make someone believe the truth if they don’t want to (or as was quoted above by Lawrence Louis, Upton Sinclair said that ” It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!”) *Oz sticking his fingers in his ears going, “LALALLAALA…I can’t hear you!”* ;o]

  • Lawrence Louis

    Everyone should go look at the Dr. Oz Show homepage, and go to the video section where the interview with Gary Taubes is divided into three parts. Under each part there is a comment section. You will be pleasantly surprised. Though there are a few defenders of Dr. Oz, the number of people finding fault with Dr. Oz’s interview, and supporting Gary Taubes exceeds the number supporting Dr. Oz and his high carbohydrate/low fat diet. To me such overwhelming support for Gary on a platform geared to promote the conventional dietary “wisdom” is good evidence that the zeitgeist is changing, and people are getting sick of dietary advice from conventional dietary proponents, like Dr. Oz, that has ostensibly failed so many people. As the German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer said:

    “All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”

    It would seem, based on the comments on Oz’s own homepage, that much of the public, despite protests from men like Oz and Ornish, are entering the third stage and accepting the truth of low carbohydrate lifestyles.

  • http://blueskiesandlowcarbpies.blogspot.com Nancy

    Dr Oz sounds like an idiot, I’m sorry. His first comment is “how many people can actually live on a diet like this, theres no sugar in it” Ugh. Then he picks up a strawberry and says that will make you fall off of the low carb wagon. Whatever. and Gary did NOT say ALL fat is good fat!!!!! Corn oil and soy oil is bad for you and Oz didnt even give him a chance to get to that. Disgusting. I plan to write to Dr Oz and tell him he is wrong, a lot of good that will do though he seems to nearly have a God complex :-P!!!!!!

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com Jimmy Moore

      The producers edited out a LOT of what Gary said for their own purposes and reasons.

      • Laura Mosiello

        Reasons? Marketing, keeping their advertisers happy, keeping the business of Dr. Oz, afloat.

  • PHK

    pork rinds are healthier than almonds. (provided they’re not fried in omega6 oil).

    i think Gary held him self very well. he also looks better. aren’t they about the same age?
    the good doc. looks dried up.

    i noticed how often Dr. Oz snacks, every 2 hours! he must be running on sugar. no wonder he’s so hyper. he feels lethargic which is typical for one who’s used to run on glucose who suddenly switches. doesn’t it usually takes 2 – 4 weeks for the body to switch gear?

    regards,

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com Jimmy Moore

      Gary is 54, Dr. Oz is just 50.

  • PHK

    ps. i also found it amusing that the good doc. kept mentioning “sacredness of food” ^_^

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com Jimmy Moore

      Yep, it was funny he kept mentioning the value and sacredness of real food–ummm, that’s what livin’ la vida low-carb is all about!

  • Harmony

    Thank you to Dr. Oz for “interviewing” Gary Taubes on his show. From this segment I will no longer watch Dr. Oz because he appears as just another puppet a medical system that perpetuates the paradigms that continue to ruin the health of millions of Americans. Gary was amazingly calm and focused during this hostile and dramatic interview. I would suggest that the “payoff” for Dr. Oz is money and ego boosting fame. What Gary’s payoff? While I am sure he likes the boost to his income I would suggest his payoff is the communication of information that is not shaped or connected to Big AG or Pharma. Thank you to Gary and all those who have the ability and motivation to sift fearlessly through ages of bad science.

  • Peggy Holloway

    It is interesting to me that even Gary does not mention that Dr. Oz had a precancerous colon polyp removed last year. If his diet is the one that is touted for preventing colon cancer (high fiber), then how does he rationalize this occurrence?

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com Jimmy Moore

      Gary’s too classy to say something like that. But even if he did, the producers would have edited it out. Gary said they removed a LOT of what he shared.

  • Alexandra

    There is a poll for who was right, Dr. Oz or Gary Taubes. It had been neck and neck earlier today, but Gary is pulling ahead. You can cast your vote here: http://www.diet-blog.com/11/poll_do_you_agree_with_dr_oz_or_gary_taubes.php

  • Jazzy

    I read the comments on the Dr. Oz website, and they are almost ALL supportive of Gary Taubes! Clearly, if we follow the money, we will find Dr. Oz was more interested in taking the side of high-carb product sponsors than in being open-minded and seeking truth.

  • sue

    I was very disappointed, as many others, that Gary didn’t get a good chance to explain himself more.
    Dr. Oz clearly had an agenda and hasn’t done his research, either.

    • http://www.livinlavidalowcarb.com Jimmy Moore

      That’s why I allowed Gary a chance to respond on my podcast where he shared the inside scoop on what REALLY happened and what the producers cut out of the final edit.

  • http://www.meandjorge.com Amber

    The bottom line is that Dr. Oz is a show that is produced to get good ratings so they can sell advertising. I dont normally watch Dr. Oz, but I like him in general. But I didnt like this at all, especially the strange attitude he was projecting. He came off as a closed minded bully, IMHO.