Comments on: Eating Low-Carb Red Meat Leads To Death–PROVE IT!

By: Roger

Roger — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 04:03:24 +0000

Actual data, googled:

Researchers discovered that the life expectancy of a 30-year-old vegetarian Adventist woman was 85.7 years, and 83.3 years for a vegetarian Adventist man. This exceeds the life expectancies of other Californians by 6.1 years for women and 9.5 years for men. Non-vegetarian Adventist women in the group had a life expectancy of 84 years, and non-vegetarian men, 81 years.

(There is only a small difference between veg and non-veg Adventists, though a big improvement over California “average,” probably due to other factors.)

By: Holly

Holly — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:21:58 +0000

First off, saturated fat is necessary for several bodily functions. http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/import_sat_fat.html

The cavemen ate low-carb high fat… They enjoyed offal! who knew?! http://westonaprice.org/traditional_diets/caveman_cuisine.html

Eating low-carb is so healthy – my doctor even told me!

I did notice the age factor of the study as well. Perhaps there were more meat eaters than there were non-meat eaters and that’s also what messed with the numbers. I can’t believe it if they don’t show me all the information. I’ve watched people eat junk food, higher carbs and end up with clogged arteries and high blood pressure. I’ve even seen people who ate the SAD (standard american diet) and have high cholesterol – 10xs worse than mine (my doctor said my cholesterol was perfect). Perhaps everyone forgets (or just stopped paying attention) that Dr. Atkins was a cardiologist. He didn’t start the diet as a weight loss thing at first, but more for people’s hearts.

By: Peter Silverman

Peter Silverman — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:20:27 +0000

It seems to me that you and Eades and Ornish all have this in common. When a study supports your view, you all take it at face value. When a study doesn’t, you all dissect it and attack it like pit bulls.

This makes it hard to take seriously what any of you say when you discuss studies.

What’s your take on your guest Steven Gundry’s citation of the study that showed that 7th Day Adventists who ate meat lived 6 to 10 years shorter than the 7th Day Adventists who didn’t. That seems like a better study (though I only read what he said about it, not the actual study.)

Not true, Peter! I have been VERY critical of the allegedly pro-low-carb studies that have come out in recent years.

Take, for example, that highly-touted New England Journal Of Medicine research out of Israel last summer. I was appalled at how many carbs the “Atkins diet” study participants were eating because it was nowhere near what I would ever eat on my low-carb lifestyle. And I shared my open disdain and disappointment in the study because of this–not “attacking like pit bulls” as you have described.

So it’s inaccurate to state that I simply accept all studies that show low-carb in a positive light at “face value.” Likewise, I don’t automatically dismiss pro-low-fat diet studies either if they make good points. Don’t lump me in with anyone else who allows their own personal dietary bias to jade their analysis of the data. I call ‘em like I see ‘em!

I haven’t seen the Gundry quote or the study, so I don’t have a specific response to that question. But, again, it seems odd that they would attach causality to the consumption of red meat alone when so many other factors are at work. THANKS for your stimulating feedback as always, Peter!

–Jimmy

By: Kim

Kim — Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:30:31 +0000

hi jimmy! i SO enjoyed this! i love learning what’s true and what’s not and everything in between:) Thanks for keeping us informed! oh and keep up the good work:)

THANKS so much for reading, Kim!

–Jimmy

By: Susan

Susan — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:25:28 +0000

If people eat less red meat the prices will go down and WE can eat more! Gotta run – my rib eye is on the grill!!!

That’s true, Susan! Hadn’t thought of it that way…although the veganites would probably attempt to slap some fancy “health” tax on it at some point. They’ll NEVER go away!

–Jimmy

By: susie kilgroe

susie kilgroe — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:21:38 +0000

When I worked in the natural health medical field I sure saw a lot of vegans that ate lots of processed junk food with sugar and grains from the healthful stores. Also, don’t you wonder how much carbs those meat eaters were consuming as well in the study?

I made that point EXACTLY in my post, Susie. It’s disgusting the correlation they make to saturated fat when it could have very well been the carbohydrates they ate.

–Jimmy