When I decided to return to podcasting this week after spending most of 2013 writing the manuscript to my forthcoming August 27, 2013 book release Cholesterol Clarity: What The HDL Is Wrong With My Numbers?, I was so excited to get back in the groove again with the thing that I love doing the most–interviewing people about nutrition, fitness and health. But it was my decision to speak with a very controversial nutritional health figure like Dr. John McDougall in Episode 686 of “The Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb Show” podcast that brought people out of the woodwork to listen, comment and react. It result in that interview rising to the top of the iTunes health podcast charts at #4–the highest such ranking any of my podcasts has ever achieved (beating out the most successful ones I had before this featuring Gary Taubes and Dr. William Davis)! If my aim was to give people something to talk about (and it was), then I believe I hit the bulls-eye with this one!
If you haven’t heard the popular interview I’ve ever done yet, then I highly encourage you to go check it out right now on iTunes and see my bulletpoint recap and show notes from this instant classic episode. I had every intention in the world going into that interview to treat Dr. McDougall with all the respect and civility with an aim to find common ground as I do with any of my guests who I don’t see eye to eye on regarding nutrition and healthy living. Just ask Dr. Dean Ornish, Dr. Neal Barnard and even the caustic Durianrider! Shockingly, though, what I got from him was the very antithesis of all of those things and that’s just too bad. Anyone who knows me and my interview style recognizes that I am willing to share my platform to any and all viewpoints–even ones I personally disagree with–for the benefit of my listeners. So many of you took notice of the very bizarre behavior Dr. McDougall exhibited on my show and had to share your feedback with me about it:
I used to be a big follower of Dr. McDougall. I was religious about following his plan because I was determined my husband and I would stay healthy. McDougall said, over and over again, that if we followed his diet of mainly carbs and very little fat, there would be no chance of a heart attack. How I wish that we’re true. After 3 years on the diet, my husband had a massive heart attack and spent a month in the hospital having multiple bypass surgery and trying to survive. After another month in a rehab facility, I was told I was taking him home to die! But while he was in the hospital, I had been studying Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon and learning another way to understand nutrition and it made so much sense to me. I haven’t been happy with McDougall’s program for a good long time, but after hearing snippets from his interview with you and the extreme rudeness he showed you, I think the man needs a good dose of healthy cholesterol in his diet! What a pompous buffoon!
I consider myself relatively non-doctrinaire on nutrition. Like you, I think if a vegan diet works for you, then okay. But after listening to McDougall’s “what’s your authority” line, I’m beginning to think people should never go on a vegan diet now–anything recommended by such an obnoxious jerk like that must have something wrong with it.
Man oh man! Dr. McDougall needs to eat some fat to get over his bipolar or whatever mental disorder he has! What an ignorant being! So sad!
Dr. McDougall is the reason the medical industry is so screwed up with nutrition. At least he admits he did not know how to help his patients when he got out of medical school. His ego is bigger then our country’s health problems and what a humanitarian he was going to Hawaii to study. This guy is the one who is dangerous. Your blood work results are your proof! Please add me as another of the many who see sugar as a weight and health enemy.
I just wanted to tell you “Bravo!” on your interview with Dr. McDougall. I’m very impressed with the way you handled him by remaining calm and respectful even though the same could not be said of him. I found him to be completely unprofessional and his attitude towards you was obviously contemptuous and confrontational. I also thought it was interesting that he wanted to attack you and your low-carb lifestyle until you told him about your excellent health eating this way. That’s when he decided that your individual results didn’t matter. I love your show and I’m glad you are open minded enough to invite people on that have differing opinions.
I just listened to your interview with McDougall. I must say that you handled yourself very well and with much more composure than I would have been been able to. I also must say that he came across as a supercilious prick.
I was so disturbed by the interview with the arrogant Dr. Starch. I decided to look up his book on Amazon and I noticed all the accolades he got from like-minded doctors and authors. Then I went to the reviews and noticed plenty of 5 stars and some rated lower. The 5-star people just rave about what a genius he is, but if you notice the ones who gave him 2 or 1 star, it’s a bit more revealing. Thank you for being out there on the front lines.
I hated the podcast because I thought Dr. McDougall attacked you throughout. He was simply arrogant and rude and failed to acknowledge that there is more than one way to eat. I personally have no heart disease risk markers and I believe that people should find their own formula for eating that works for them. I wanted to reach through my iPod and slap him upside his head! Keep up the great work Jimmy.
It was nauseating how he kept repeating how he was an MD and so he obviously knew it all. I wish you had asked him how many actual courses in nutrition, research methodology, and statistics his medical school and residency included. I think you would find that it was little or none. What a load of crap!
Wow, that was hard to listen to. I was flinching when I heard some of McDougall’s comments. He certainly beats hands down your
interview with Durianrider in terms of vitriol. Props to you for
trying to keep it at a level of civilized discussion.
I listened to your interview with Dr. McDougall today and WOW! I am amazed at how condescending this man is! He’s arrogant,
nasty and mean-spirited. It’s certainly to your credit that you were able to show so much grace under pressure to this smug, abusive pontificating fool. I’m sure his diet CAN work, but who would want to stay on it without going mad? Geez, the guy doesn’t even allow OLIVE OIL! What a maniac! The emphasis on weight that McDougall showed in the interview strikes me as having the mindset of an eating disordered personality. I don’t think he’s a well man and his frail ego was totally on the line in that interview. I would NEVER want to be treated by such an egomaniac. He can’t accept that ANY diet but HIS is valid because he is a pompous, ego-driven jerk.
There were many more comments posted about my McDougall interview in the comments section of this blog post and the podcast web site, on both my personal Facebook fan page as well as the LLVLC Facebook fan page, my Twitter page, my Google+ profile, at my “Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb” discussion forum–EVERYWHERE! In fact, if you want a few giggles from the McDougallites, just check out what they are saying at his forum. All in all, it was the perfect way to return to podcasting and I’ve got so many great interviews lined up for you in the next few months. But no more vegans for a while, I promise.