Comments on: Battinger: I Still Believe The Kimkins Diet Works, But ‘The Doors Are Closing’ Soon

By: Avenue Girl

Avenue Girl — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:44:00 +0000

Womans World has not printed a retraction to my knowledge. It's extremely irresponsible. It was probably the highest sales they ever had. What a scam.

By: Steven

Steven — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 00:41:00 +0000

The videos from KTLA are really amazing when you watch them all together: 3 investigation videos. It's amazing to me that a national magazine would run a cover story so suspect. Have they issued a retraction or an apology yet?

By: Once Upon A Dieter

Once Upon A Dieter — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:49:00 +0000

Thanks, Jimmy, and thanks also to Jeannie. As much as I feel a certain disgust for her continuing to support “Kimkins works”–yes, starvation works, Jeannie. Always has for weight loss–I think that her assisting Mr. Tiedt and being open here is a good thing, and I applaud her.

I also note that I am one of the persons who posted on LCF (and was quoted on Tippy’s blog), and who was IMMEDIATELY corrected by several LCF-ers for what I got wrong. I notice on Tippy’s blog that she doesn’t clarify that LCF members, including those who see her as not trustworthy, corrected me and clarified the exact thing Tippy did. This was her way, I suppose, of not giving LCF credit for seeking truth. We correct EACH OTHER when we accidentally misread something. (Well, she might have added it later. I read it when it was posted, and have not gone back recently. So, if she added that LCF members promptly set me straight, then good. If not, then she’s telling a half-truth. Again.)

Please forgive my skepticism, but I still am not fully convinced one can see blood in a toilet once someone has left a bathroom (um, don’t y’all flush?), so color me cynical when it comes to Tippy. But that’s probably due to remembering the iffy justifications and fiddling Tippy did on the KK site as documented by KK posts subsequently copied/pasted to the LCF forums and even the “gotcha” moment on the tv show.

Note to Tippy: If you are upping the fat and calories, it’s NOT Kimkins you’re doing. It’s something else. When you’re eating too all-low (too low-cal, too low-fat, too-low-carb, etc), that’s Kimkins.

That Tippy continues to call the actual Kimkins Diet (by using the term Kimkins) “safe” when it’s not when done as Kimmer created it, means she continues to foster an untruth that can damage health. Call it whatever you like, make up a new name for your higher-cal and higher-fat versions, but it’s not Kimkins’ diet if you’re eating 1200 calories and getting plenty of healthy fats and nutrients. It’s Atkins or it’s something else in the LC way of eating.

Eating VLCD with very low fat and not enough fiber and veggies and necessary nutrients: that’s Kimkins.

But I have gained some measure of respect for Tippy addressing these questions. I hope she does follow through fully in cooperating with Jeanessa and Mr. Tiedt, because that goes a long way to repairing the damage she did by going on tv and calling Kimkins safe and beneficial, and by promoting Heidi’s cause at KK in the weeks prior to the great revelation that Heidi is a big fat fraud.

Oh, well. Rant over.

Thanks again, Jimmy. And you, too, Jeannie. I hope that, in the end, you and Deni and Christen and the LCF anti-KK contingent can reconciliate. I also hope your new website will not encourage, ever, the VLCDieting that Kimkins did, and I hope that all KK members find healthful new forums to support their weight loss journeys.

Heidi–well, I hope to see her jailed and penniless, but especially penniless.

The Princess

By: mariasol

mariasol — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:41:00 +0000

Hulon said: "I can only feel Kimkins is leading this with money paid to various people to smear, somthing that is really working for many people."

I posted your comment submitted on my blog, but this was not in there.

I just want to assure you that I am not paid by Kimmer, nor do I support Kimkins and I have no intention of "smearing" Bonnie. I try to stick to facts from publicly available information.

By: Hulon

Hulon — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:40:00 +0000

My inlaws own and maintain a web site started earlier this year www.magicchickendiet.com . My mother inlaw, Bonnie Luper who lost a 165 in ten months.
By her own design, she invented a diest plan that worked. Her goal was to start a web site to help other people with a weightloss program that wasnt just,
lossing a few pounds. Her web site was taken offline by godaddy.com under pressure, from a complaint from kimkins.com, stateing that there were too many,
simularities to there web site. The letter from Kimkins.com stated that there forum,has simularities and other ideas. My thinking is most buisness via web site in simular fields all will have simular
ideas, as far as being a diet program how could diet program not be simuluar,in all aspects. It all started,when "yuckyyuck" posted a email to there website stateing something about
a possible lawsuit to magicchickendiet.com. Now this yuckyyuck guy, has done nothing but post on various message boards trashing the magicchickendiet.
Bonnie and David Luper, have done nothing wrong. There real genuine salt of the earth people. THey both grew up in fort Worth,Tx. Bonnie Luper is the real deal.
Her, weight loss story is 100% genuine. Kimkins on the other hand is by all accounts a liar, a cheat and a fraud. Manny on the message boards were stating that Magicchickendiet.com
was kimkin under a new new name. Also Bonnie posted to manny of her, doubters about whos she was and that her and her website and diet were in fact real.
Shes never hid from any one, Nor her or her husband have any knowledge of kimkins or her diets or any other ideas or content from her website. Bonnie and David Luper
had no one what so ever subscribe to kimkins.com or steal ideas or content from them or any one else.Bonnie is happy and proud to display her new found life style and body
her purpose was not soley just for profit. There was a huge buzz on the internet about www.magicchickendiet.com, and I believe that kimers and her paid assosiates
are out to smear, the good name of hard working people, who have done nothing except put alot of work into a website and diet program.Its taking thousands of dollars
and thousnads of hours to , start and maintain a web site. They started it whith the firts 200 memebers to sign up, for only 20$ for a full life time memeber ship.
As of some time this fall they filled,there first 200 quota. kimkins is by far afraid that there lieing,and sorted history and current legal troubles, from
being a fruadulant company. That real genuine article, a better product will take away from there buisness.I can only feel Kimkins is leading this with money paid
to various people to smear, somthing that is really working for many people. Trying to keep there online dominance, and keeping people only choice to be a complete
farse of a company. Bonnies only underlying reason to do this web site was to have surgery to replace her brest she lost 18 years ago to breast cancer.

MY name is Hulon Pate, im 33 years old and from West, Texas. I will not sit idley by and have some fruad, undermind what my wifes family have worked hard to start.
While some one like kim kin who has, taken good money, from people under false pretenses. Every one knows the day before Kimmers assesets were frozen she purchased
a house with cash money. I just want you guys at Fox 4. That an injustice has been done and that, the bottom line is money, Kimkins knows that the New Year
will bring, new years resolutions and a diet plans for millions of Americans. Now the issue on message boards abroad have stated"why not do this for people for free"
My simple answer is this, Bill Gates has made more money than hundreds of people could spend in a life time, why does he charge for Vista, when he could easily
given it away to the world for free?

Bonnie Luper is not hideing, Her plan is working for many people, of all backgrounds and incomes.Shes had no knowlage of Kimmers or any thing about her ,honestly
till news of her own doing{kimkins} came to light on the news,Bonnie never herd of her. Kimmers and her people know, that she is real, and are doing everything in there power to stop,Bonnie Luper.
From having a original, woking ideas, rise up from the ruins of there own lies.Bonnie Luper has a succesfull Candle buisness, and doesnt have time or the capasity
to do steal or rip off any one for any reason. I hope Fox 4 has the courage to stand up to a organization, that has large resourses, to knock of the lilttle lady from
Texas, and her true story, that is really helping people.

By: 2BIG4MYSIZE

2BIG4MYSIZE — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:34:00 +0000

I'm amazed any doctor who actually understood nutrtion would look at the kimkins original plan and approve eating less the 750 calories a day which is what the orginal kimkins plan totals for the highers protein options especially when by TippyToes own words there was a brochure in a doctors lobby saying below 800 cals is a VLCD.
Sure would like to ask that doc if we could quote him as approving a diet that low in cals, below the recommneded EFAs even with that list of supplements he gave her to take while following it.
Best information on Kimkins can be found here

And my offer to discuss kimkins above 800 cals with Tippy still stands. Come post your reply on 2BIG