Comments on: ‘Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb Show’ Episode 331: Motivational Speaker Steve Siebold Says ‘Die Fat Or Get Tough’ http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/%e2%80%98livin%e2%80%99-la-vida-low-carb-show%e2%80%99-episode-331-motivational-speaker-steve-siebold-says-die-fat-or-get-tough/7171 To educate, encourage, and inspire the world to start low-carb living Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:39:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Alejo Hausner http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/%e2%80%98livin%e2%80%99-la-vida-low-carb-show%e2%80%99-episode-331-motivational-speaker-steve-siebold-says-die-fat-or-get-tough/7171#comment-22706 Alejo Hausner Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:46:52 +0000 http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/?p=7171#comment-22706 Aurelia wrote: "Gastric bypass surgery puts you on a low carb diet anyway" Amen to that! I'm glad to see someone else saying it. Now the problem is, how to get the message out? Everyone: follow the link to post 1831 that Jimmy added in his comment to Aurelia's comment. Tom commented on that post and explained that after his surgery, he was forced to eat mostly low-carb, and was in full ketosis. But hey, what a horrible way to have to eat low carb! Alejo Aurelia wrote: “Gastric bypass surgery puts you on a low carb diet anyway”

Amen to that! I’m glad to see someone else saying it. Now the problem is, how to get the message out?

Everyone: follow the link to post 1831 that Jimmy added in his comment to Aurelia’s comment. Tom commented on that post and explained that after his surgery, he was forced to eat mostly low-carb, and was in full ketosis. But hey, what a horrible way to have to eat low carb!

Alejo

]]> By: aurelia http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/%e2%80%98livin%e2%80%99-la-vida-low-carb-show%e2%80%99-episode-331-motivational-speaker-steve-siebold-says-die-fat-or-get-tough/7171#comment-22692 aurelia Fri, 05 Feb 2010 19:10:44 +0000 http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/?p=7171#comment-22692 Here's what I don't understand. Gastric bypass surgery puts you on a low carb diet anyway so you can get enough nutrition. Why not skip the surgery and use a low carb diet? <i>I've never understood that either. <a HREF=http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/?p=1831 rel="nofollow">Gastric bypass is NOT the answer</a> as many people believe, but a lot of people are <a HREF=http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/?p=2094 rel="nofollow">turning to low-carb first</a>. --Jimmy</i> Here’s what I don’t understand. Gastric bypass surgery puts you on a low carb diet anyway so you can get enough nutrition. Why not skip the surgery and use a low carb diet?

I’ve never understood that either. Gastric bypass is NOT the answer as many people believe, but a lot of people are turning to low-carb first.

–Jimmy

]]> By: Eileen Coale http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/%e2%80%98livin%e2%80%99-la-vida-low-carb-show%e2%80%99-episode-331-motivational-speaker-steve-siebold-says-die-fat-or-get-tough/7171#comment-22688 Eileen Coale Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:57:04 +0000 http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/?p=7171#comment-22688 <i>Don’t you hate it when you see all of these television ads promoting the next great diet for producing amazing weight loss success, but then they throw in a crazy CYA legal disclaimer that states “results NOT typical.” I have to laugh every time I see that because I’d be ashamed to boast of producing success and then telling people that they shouldn’t expect to get these same kind of results.</i> Jimmy, weight loss companies and supplement companies are required by law to have this disclaimer. It doesn't matter if 100% of their customers had these fabulous results, they'd still have to use it. And as of late last year, the FTC has tightened up the regulations even more. Their premise is that the most positive testimonials are inherently deceptive, unless they are accompanied by some kind of statement or disclaimer of what a typical result is. You now have to have clinical proof that shows what your typical customers will achieve, or you can't use the really great testimonials. This can really hold back great companies who make great products from getting their positive message out; as a copywriter specializing in natural health, I see this all the time. But as a consumer who knows how many rip-offs there are, I can see why some people would support these regulations. The bottom line is, if a company didn't cover itself in disclaimers, the FTC would shut them down, period. <i>Eileen, I TOTALLY understand the legal requirements that these companies must abide by. But it just totally dismantles in my mind any of the supposed good about their products that the marketing conjured up when I hear the line "results not typical." --Jimmy</i> Don’t you hate it when you see all of these television ads promoting the next great diet for producing amazing weight loss success, but then they throw in a crazy CYA legal disclaimer that states “results NOT typical.” I have to laugh every time I see that because I’d be ashamed to boast of producing success and then telling people that they shouldn’t expect to get these same kind of results.
Jimmy, weight loss companies and supplement companies are required by law to have this disclaimer. It doesn’t matter if 100% of their customers had these fabulous results, they’d still have to use it. And as of late last year, the FTC has tightened up the regulations even more. Their premise is that the most positive testimonials are inherently deceptive, unless they are accompanied by some kind of statement or disclaimer of what a typical result is. You now have to have clinical proof that shows what your typical customers will achieve, or you can’t use the really great testimonials. This can really hold back great companies who make great products from getting their positive message out; as a copywriter specializing in natural health, I see this all the time. But as a consumer who knows how many rip-offs there are, I can see why some people would support these regulations. The bottom line is, if a company didn’t cover itself in disclaimers, the FTC would shut them down, period.

Eileen, I TOTALLY understand the legal requirements that these companies must abide by. But it just totally dismantles in my mind any of the supposed good about their products that the marketing conjured up when I hear the line “results not typical.”

–Jimmy

]]> By: Dana http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/%e2%80%98livin%e2%80%99-la-vida-low-carb-show%e2%80%99-episode-331-motivational-speaker-steve-siebold-says-die-fat-or-get-tough/7171#comment-22657 Dana Fri, 05 Feb 2010 02:16:02 +0000 http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/?p=7171#comment-22657 <i> the differences between the way fat people and fit people think</i> First off, Jimmy, I know a fat woman who runs marathons. I mean, I don't believe being able to run a marathon automatically means you are healthy, but she's got to have some level of fitness or else she couldn't do it at all. I have run across another who is a triathlete, and could say the same about her. I have also known thin people who were couch potatoes. I used to be one of them. (More accurately, I was a chair potato or a bed potato with my nose in a book.) I was in the Army for a while and when I first went in, my time on the two-minute mile was twenty-nine minutes. It got better--way better--but dang! And I wasn't even *close* to fat. So the proper comparison is between fat people and thin people. I've been on both sides of this dividing line. Lemme tell you how my thinking changed. Thin me: [nothing special in particular, taking life for granted] Fat me: Damn it sucks to drive the air out of my lungs when I sit down and try to tie my shoes. Was I this huge paragon of mental toughness when I was thin? Nah. I daresay most people aren't, regardless of their weight. And I haven't changed much one way or the other since going over normal BMI. What has changed is my awareness of how my body fits into various scenarios, and my awareness that gradually over the years I have become invisible to most other people. There was a time I could go to a party populated by nothing but strangers and wind up with a boyfriend. Now I'm lucky if a guy looks me in the eye and doesn't flinch. If you want to know whether there are demonstrable differences between fat and thin people, you might start there. I know there are extra special folks who are perfect in every way and they let this stuff roll off their backs--but there are those devastated by it, and there are those, like me, who fall somewhere in the middle. It sucks, but I deal. I look at it this way: At least I am not winding up with a crappy boyfriend every year because I have a bad habit of moving fast in relationships. Being fat and therefore socially dead has given me time to get to know myself better. But I'd still not like to knock the wind out of myself just bending over to tie a damn shoe. Now I grant you, I do buckle under too easily and I do give up. I have always been that way. But aren't there any mentally tough people who get fat? Even if there aren't, so what? It's a physical condition. There are ways to change it. Even knowing the health risks associated with obesity (ASSOCIATED with, not CAUSED BY), I'd be more concerned about a person gaining that mental toughness than about what number they bring up on the scale. Just my two cents, your mileage may vary, blah blah. the differences between the way fat people and fit people think

First off, Jimmy, I know a fat woman who runs marathons. I mean, I don’t believe being able to run a marathon automatically means you are healthy, but she’s got to have some level of fitness or else she couldn’t do it at all. I have run across another who is a triathlete, and could say the same about her.

I have also known thin people who were couch potatoes. I used to be one of them. (More accurately, I was a chair potato or a bed potato with my nose in a book.) I was in the Army for a while and when I first went in, my time on the two-minute mile was twenty-nine minutes. It got better–way better–but dang! And I wasn’t even *close* to fat.

So the proper comparison is between fat people and thin people. I’ve been on both sides of this dividing line. Lemme tell you how my thinking changed.

Thin me: [nothing special in particular, taking life for granted]

Fat me: Damn it sucks to drive the air out of my lungs when I sit down and try to tie my shoes.

Was I this huge paragon of mental toughness when I was thin? Nah. I daresay most people aren’t, regardless of their weight. And I haven’t changed much one way or the other since going over normal BMI. What has changed is my awareness of how my body fits into various scenarios, and my awareness that gradually over the years I have become invisible to most other people.

There was a time I could go to a party populated by nothing but strangers and wind up with a boyfriend. Now I’m lucky if a guy looks me in the eye and doesn’t flinch.

If you want to know whether there are demonstrable differences between fat and thin people, you might start there. I know there are extra special folks who are perfect in every way and they let this stuff roll off their backs–but there are those devastated by it, and there are those, like me, who fall somewhere in the middle. It sucks, but I deal.

I look at it this way: At least I am not winding up with a crappy boyfriend every year because I have a bad habit of moving fast in relationships. Being fat and therefore socially dead has given me time to get to know myself better.

But I’d still not like to knock the wind out of myself just bending over to tie a damn shoe.

Now I grant you, I do buckle under too easily and I do give up. I have always been that way. But aren’t there any mentally tough people who get fat? Even if there aren’t, so what? It’s a physical condition. There are ways to change it. Even knowing the health risks associated with obesity (ASSOCIATED with, not CAUSED BY), I’d be more concerned about a person gaining that mental toughness than about what number they bring up on the scale.

Just my two cents, your mileage may vary, blah blah.

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